80 pages good effort!, I have not read your pdf (but I will be reading it), gentile times reconsidered is really a good book, 17 ways which not only proves the JW to be wrong but also the bible to be accurate.
Joey Jo-Jo
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Daniels 70 weeks in the WT book The Bible Gods Word or Mans?
by Doug Mason ini have just completed my study into the watchtowers interpretation of the 70 weeks of daniel 9, as given in its book, the bible gods word or mans?.
the tower says this prophecy exactly predicted the year of christs baptism and death, as well as the year that the message started going to the gentiles.
is the watchtowers explanation valid?
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Oh no! You cursed!
by bottleofwater inhave any of you met witnesses who thought that crap or ass is a curse word?
any other words?.
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Joey Jo-Jo
I talk like Ned
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Missing bible verses
by Joey Jo-Jo indoes anyone know what happen to:-.
matt23:14 18:11 17:21. john5:4 7:53 8:11. luke 23:17. .
edit:never mind found the old thread.
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Joey Jo-Jo
NASV kept all these verses I was just not aware.
AGuest: Ahah you can't go wrong with too many bibles, including the original Hebrew/Greek to English with strong's numbering and concordance.
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Missing bible verses
by Joey Jo-Jo indoes anyone know what happen to:-.
matt23:14 18:11 17:21. john5:4 7:53 8:11. luke 23:17. .
edit:never mind found the old thread.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Does anyone know what happen to:-
Matt23:14 18:11 17:21
John5:4 7:53 8:11
Luke 23:17
EDIT:Never mind found the old thread
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Do you know who you are?
by cyberjesus inwe spend much time trying to understand ourselves and other.
we study human behavior, psychological factors, why god created us.
bible prophecies, etc etc.
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Joey Jo-Jo
This thread reminds me of some scenes from NGE
- Shinji: Nobody understands me.
- Rei: You never understood anything.
- Shinji: I thought this was supposed to be a world without pain, and without uncertainty.
- Rei: That's because you thought that everyone else felt the same as you do.
- Shinji: You betrayed me! You betrayed my feelings!
- Rei: You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe.
- Shinji: Nobody wants me. So they can all just die.
- Rei: Then what is your hand for?
- Shinji: Nobody cares whether or not I exist. Nothing ever changes. So they can all just die.
- Rei: Then tell me; what is your heart for?
- Shinji: It would be better if I never existed... I should just die, too.
- Rei: Then why are you here?
- [Flashback image of Shinji as a child, abandoned and crying]
- Shinji: I-is it okay for me to be here?
- [White text on black: "Silence". Shinji screams]
- Kaworu: You know pain is something man must endure in his heart, and since the heart feels pain so easily some believe life is pain. You are delicate like glass, especially your heart.
- Shinji: I am?
- Kaworu: Yes, and worth earning my empathy.
- Shinji: Empathy?
- Kaworu: I'm saying I love you.
- Kaworu: It is my destiny to live forever, though my survival will bring final destruction to the human race. However, it is possible for me to be killed, and whether I live or die makes no great difference. In truth, death may be the only absolute freedom there is.
- Shinji: What are you? Kaworu, I don't understand what you are talking about, Kaworu.
- Kaworu: This is my wish: please, destroy me. Otherwise, you will be destroyed. Only one life-form can be chosen to evade the destruction and seize the future! And yours is not the existence which should die. You need the future, it is what you live for!
- Asuka: [naked and smiling at Shinji] Hey Shinji, you idiot! Want to become of one mind and one body?
- [The Angel Armisael is merging with Unit 00 while Rei is synchronized with it, and telepathically makes contact with Rei's mind, appearing as an image of Rei]
- Rei: Who is this? You? Myself and an EVA. No, I sense somebody other than myself. Who are you? An Angel? Are you one of the beings we call the Angels?
- Armisael: Don't you want to become one with me?
- Rei: No. I am me. Not you.
- Armisael: Hmm, but you shall. It's too late. I will share part of my mind with you. Let me share with you these emotions. This is pain. Do you feel this pain?
- Rei: This pain? No, it's different. Loneliness. Yes. Loneliness.
- Armisael: Loneliness? I don't understand.
- Rei: You don't want to be by yourself, correct? We are many but you are alone. You hate it don't you?
- Armisael: That is what it is to be lonely? That is what your mind is. It is what fills your soul. You are that sorrow.
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Strangest comment
by drewcoul inwhat is the strangest or most wacked-out comment or answer you've ever heard at a wt or book study?.
i remember at the cong.
wt study, we were studying about the jews being led out of egypt by moses.
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Joey Jo-Jo
I have a cong that can testify, all I have to do is to convert some to ex-jw!
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Strangest comment
by drewcoul inwhat is the strangest or most wacked-out comment or answer you've ever heard at a wt or book study?.
i remember at the cong.
wt study, we were studying about the jews being led out of egypt by moses.
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Joey Jo-Jo
This is like straight out of nake gun, we had these wireless mic which one elderly brother forgot to switch it off before going to the toiled, so he puts it in his right pocket and walks into the toilet, we started to ear what sounded like rain then water drops then a fart, had tears in my eyes of so much laughing.
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I am so confused about one guy that loves....
by asilentone inthe holy bible and wicca.
can you explain that?.
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Joey Jo-Jo
Wicca is a religion, some of these people practice magik, its part of occult religion like spiritualism. They both follow parts of the bible
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A Warning to Elders
by Darth plaugeis inwhat if the elders tracked you down and show up at your house to inform you of wrong doing and the action they will take.. what if the elders destroyed your family and now they stand before you smiling with the bible in their hand.. i know my reaction.... it would not be pretty... the police would be at my house very shortly.. do they really believe jah would protect them from those they wronged?
i am not a violent man..... but this is like rubbing your nose in the very pain they caused.. i say this because..... i sense something is in the mix.. my lawyer gave some info because of a legal matter and if i know these bastards.......... they better think twice....
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Joey Jo-Jo
I wrote: your all just giving them more reason for them to say to themselves "we truly are GOD's chosen people because in the bla bla we will be hated among all earth
Darth wrote: How is walking into a coffee shop and saying nothing and they always get up and Leave giving them reason? I get in line for coffee So I should what call the coffee shop to see if any JWs are there and if not then it's ok to get coffee?
hated by the World... I didn't tell my children to leave their Father and NEVER talk to him again. So who is teaching Hate? I think you missed the point.
Darth I am not saying what they do is right. All I am saying is that 2 wrongs dont make a right. At times they (but not all) react in a certain way because they think that they are doing the right thing. Don't JW's teach shunning? They dont teach shunning to the GB do they? Since they are walking out of the coffee shop (and you should know this), they think that if they speak to you they are giving reason that what ever you did is ok, the other reason is because they want you feel a sense of guilt so you acknowledge your wrong doing, Jehovah law through human authority doctrination.
You see when I was IN, in the back of my mind I thought that when people's hearts go cold its a sine of the last days that brothers leaving and the hole world gone atheist or "false religion" would be a prophecy slowly coming true (this is my post view but im sure there a million of other views which they think its the right thing), and I believe this was the true religion no if's or but's. now I see it differently but im just showing you that mind control can overcome conscience and common sense by following JW doctrination.
The point is that they dont know any better, I see this brother at the hall that when I walk in he just stares at me like I shouldn't be there , but I just feel sorry for him because I know that he wants to do what he think is the right thing (he also might think that he has genuine good intentions by keeping the society clean), but i know that he has been lied to has no idea, for me thats sad, now im seeing more odd faces, people are talking I know I can feel it in my skin. I keep thinking of satan becoming an angel of light so his followers think they are following an angel of light, that does mean they are satan followers because they have been lied to.
Like I said before "I think that the rationale on this thread is all wrong, your all just giving them more reason for them to say to themselves "we truly are GOD's chosen people because in the bla bla we will be hated among all earth""
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A Warning to Elders
by Darth plaugeis inwhat if the elders tracked you down and show up at your house to inform you of wrong doing and the action they will take.. what if the elders destroyed your family and now they stand before you smiling with the bible in their hand.. i know my reaction.... it would not be pretty... the police would be at my house very shortly.. do they really believe jah would protect them from those they wronged?
i am not a violent man..... but this is like rubbing your nose in the very pain they caused.. i say this because..... i sense something is in the mix.. my lawyer gave some info because of a legal matter and if i know these bastards.......... they better think twice....
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Joey Jo-Jo
Darth plaugeis wrote: Funny how they all leave when Darth walks in. I feel sorry for the little ones I never met cause they hold there Parents like they have seen Satan themselves..... maybe just maybe... they have!
Their parents could be just as confused as their children. Depending on their intentions, if they are good I would try and debate their points but if its just finger point and judgement i would tell them to leave.
I think that the rationale on this thread is all wrong, your all just giving them more reason for them to say to themselves "we truly are GOD's chosen people because in the bla bla we will be hated among all earth"